A question regarding the usefulness of Disarm?
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A question regarding the usefulness of Disarm?
I was curious about how useful the feat disarm would be in the Vast? Are creatures disarmable on the server? Now, I believe as a matter of record that when 'NPC' and Creature's are disarmed the weapon just goes into their inventory, yes? Which is what I understood it to be. <br>
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This does not concern me as the question isn't geared about getting the weapon itself, but for instance building a fighter or rogue character that works with lots of finesse moves? Using a rapier or a whip for instance to disarm an opponent, or working as part of a group to set up an opponent to be disarmed, thus putting them at a disadvantage to the rest of the group you happen to be with? <br>
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Just curious as to how useful disarm would be on the server in terms of concept? <br>
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Thanks for your time! [smiles, waves]<br>
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--Ro (Sena Treebottom)
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This does not concern me as the question isn't geared about getting the weapon itself, but for instance building a fighter or rogue character that works with lots of finesse moves? Using a rapier or a whip for instance to disarm an opponent, or working as part of a group to set up an opponent to be disarmed, thus putting them at a disadvantage to the rest of the group you happen to be with? <br>
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Just curious as to how useful disarm would be on the server in terms of concept? <br>
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Thanks for your time! [smiles, waves]<br>
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--Ro (Sena Treebottom)
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Innuvindyl
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Re: A question regarding the usefulness of Disarm?
would also be nice for taking hostages <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END-->
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Re: A question regarding the usefulness of Disarm?
Our creatures are set to be disarmable.<br>
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Unless it has been changed by BW, the weapon should drop on the ground after a successful disarm attempt.
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Unless it has been changed by BW, the weapon should drop on the ground after a successful disarm attempt.
<p><!--EZCODE HR START--><hr /><!--EZCODE HR END--><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security.<br>
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"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty nor security."
-Benjamin Franklin
Re: A question regarding the usefulness of Disarm?
Corvus doesn't have the Disarm feat himself, but his raven, Silvestris, does. I can give you a fairly accurate idea of how it works.<br>
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The disarmer makes an attack roll at a -6 penalty (this is a serious penalty for many people in the Vast, who for the most part have low attack bonuses). If this attack roll beats the opponent's AC, a Disarm is <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>possible</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->; otherwise, the attack misses entirely. If the attack hits, the opponent makes a Discipline check which opposes the same attack roll, and if the Discipline check succeeds, the opponent takes normal damage and keeps their weapon; if it fails, their weapon flies out of heir hand and falls on the ground several feet away.<br>
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This is the same for NPCs and PCs. For NPCs, they've just lost at least one of their weapons permanently; PCs or possessed NPCs can pick up their weapon again, but they lose their quickslot for it, so it's a bear to try and pick it up and pull it out again while being pounded.<br>
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To sum it all up, Disarm can screw — um, screw up your opponent if it hits. However, considering the penalty applied, it's unlikely you will unless you also manage to take Improved Disarm.
<p>-- Cafall (Corvus Gwynstredd'ae and Harritan Middleson)</p><i></i>
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The disarmer makes an attack roll at a -6 penalty (this is a serious penalty for many people in the Vast, who for the most part have low attack bonuses). If this attack roll beats the opponent's AC, a Disarm is <!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>possible</em><!--EZCODE ITALIC END-->; otherwise, the attack misses entirely. If the attack hits, the opponent makes a Discipline check which opposes the same attack roll, and if the Discipline check succeeds, the opponent takes normal damage and keeps their weapon; if it fails, their weapon flies out of heir hand and falls on the ground several feet away.<br>
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This is the same for NPCs and PCs. For NPCs, they've just lost at least one of their weapons permanently; PCs or possessed NPCs can pick up their weapon again, but they lose their quickslot for it, so it's a bear to try and pick it up and pull it out again while being pounded.<br>
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To sum it all up, Disarm can screw — um, screw up your opponent if it hits. However, considering the penalty applied, it's unlikely you will unless you also manage to take Improved Disarm.
<p>-- Cafall (Corvus Gwynstredd'ae and Harritan Middleson)</p><i></i>
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Re: A question regarding the usefulness of Disarm?
<!--EZCODE QUOTE START--><blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>would also be nice for taking hostages <hr></blockquote><!--EZCODE QUOTE END--><br>
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The creature will remain hostile and fight with whatever weapon it has left, which may just be its fists, claws, teeth, whatever.
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The creature will remain hostile and fight with whatever weapon it has left, which may just be its fists, claws, teeth, whatever.
<p><!--EZCODE HR START--><hr /><!--EZCODE HR END--><!--EZCODE ITALIC START--><em>They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security.<br>
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Innuvindyl
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Re: A question regarding the usefulness of Disarm?
yes yes, but maybe as part of some DM event, they could possibly surrender when they had been disarmed...<br>
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Innu would prefer that <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END-->
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Innu would prefer that <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END-->
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Cornelius Scarecrow
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Re: A question regarding the usefulness of Disarm?
Just to overstate the obvious...<br>
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A scripted surrender in such a case might also be a possibility.<br>
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- CS esq.
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A scripted surrender in such a case might also be a possibility.<br>
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- CS esq.
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Re: A question regarding the usefulness of Disarm?
But then what? Walk around all day with your new goblin buddy? <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START ;) --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/wink.gif ALT=";)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END-->
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Re: A question regarding the usefulness of Disarm?
What a wonderfull idea AG, that would certainly be fun : )
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Cornelius Scarecrow
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Re: A question regarding the usefulness of Disarm?
Good idea!<br>
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Some fine clothes, a good long bath and a close shave and he'll look no different than every other halfling in Dragon Dale. <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :smokin --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smokin.gif ALT=":smokin"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br>
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Some fine clothes, a good long bath and a close shave and he'll look no different than every other halfling in Dragon Dale. <!--EZCODE EMOTICON START :smokin --><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smokin.gif ALT=":smokin"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> <br>
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